The following blog is originally a comment that I made to a review of the Equal Money System and Desteni that was shared on Quora – and you can find the entire discussion here.
First I will share the original review – and after this review I will show how this review is based upon many misunderstandings – and misconceptions – and that this have resulted from not thoroughly investigating what Desteni is really all about.
Review From Quora
- Bernard Poolman, at the top of this scheme, recruits “managers” who recruit other “managers’ to the system, very similar to Multi-Level Marketing (MLM) and Scientology
- After spending a certain amount of time and money at Desteni, you get to advance to the next level in “education and advancement”
- In essence, there is no “equality” – all people at Desteni are trying to climb the ladder to the get more “educated” and spend more money in order to do so (similar to those in Scientology who wish to learn about the mysterious alien, Lord Xenu). It is rumored that some are paid commissions in order to recruit new members as well.
- According to several reviews from past members I’ve read/heard about, none of the senior managers even know what the “Equal Money System” is and the phrase “Pyramid Scheme” will immediately get you banned from the organization
To me, it’s Scientology with a new twist that sounds more realistic: no aliens and thetas, instead filled with anarchistic goals of a communist planet where economic fact and reason are denied, and replaced with a system that will inevitably lead to destructive failure.
Edit: I just read on their materials and official site, aliens are indeed part of this system, and supposedly one of humanity’s greatest secrets. I stand corrected: this system is crazier than Scientology. Day 185: Are we Earthlings or Aliens? Secrets of the Human Race • Desteni – Group of people exploring Equality & Oneness principles
The reason I wrote this is because I see a lot of “Equal Money System” questions on Quora lately, likely sparked from managers within the group spamming to get Quorans thinking about falling bait.
I warn all Quora Admins to do their research on Bernard Poolman, Desteni, and this system, and be on the look out for spam. I also warn all Quorans, do not fall prey to this system – it is just another scam that preys on people who are facing rough times, those with sympathy towards equalism (though they pervert this idea), and young people.
For those wondering about Xenu (Scientology), here is what he supposedly looks like:
My Comment On The Review:
So – the first thing that can be pointed out in relation to this review is that it’s based upon assumption – and that there is no clear empirical evidence supporting any of the claims that is made by the author.
I will go through all the points mentioned in this review point by point to as such exactly how – and why – what is mentioned here is fiction and not really what Desteni is about.
Bernard Poolman, at the top of this scheme, recruits “managers” who recruit other “managers’ to the system, very similar to Multi-Level Marketing (MLM) and Scientology
Bernard Poolman is not “at the top of this scheme” – Bernard Poolman is the founder of Desteni but he’s not the chief executive of Desteni – the reason for this is that Desteni is a voluntary organisation that function by the combined efforts of all it’s members – we are a democratic and logic-based organisation wherein the suggestions, and pointers of members that are the best – will receive attention and be implemented.
Secondly – Desteni is not a scheme – we are very open about what we are – we are a open and voluntary organisation that have a very clear objective – and that is to create a world that is best for all in every way – there is nothing secret about this and everything of this is already shared on the Desteni website.
“After spending a certain amount of time and money at Desteni, you get to advance to the next level in “education and advancement”
No – Desteni is a FREE and voluntary organisation – everyone can participate as much as they like without paying anything.
Though – Desteni offer certain educational courses and these costs money – which is nothing strange – universities costs money because giving a education to someone requires that you have a teacher and the necessary educational material – the Desteni education functions by the same principles.
As you complete the courses given by Desteni you will be able to go to the next stage – obviously – there is nothing strange about this either – and the same principle is used in all schools – you must first understand the basics to go to the more advanced level.
“In essence, there is no “equality” – all people at Desteni are trying to climb the ladder to the get more “educated” and spend more money in order to do so (similar to those in Scientology who wish to learn about the mysterious alien, Lord Xenu). It is rumored that some are paid commissions in order to recruit new members as well.”
Those that participate in Desteni are not there to climb a ladder – we are walking the courses by our own free-choice – and because we are genuinly interested in understanding ourselves, and how to be able to become more effective human-beings.We spend money in order to walk the courses – but as I’ve said – this is nothing strange – you spend money to get access to services in the system all the time – and it’s ignorant to believe that you’re able to give a high-quality education without asking for money in return – it’s simply not possible.
Yes – we are paid commissions in order to recruit new members – yet – this is nothing strange either – several organizations apply the same method – and most companies that are into sales will have a similar principle wherein you get paid by the amount of sales you do. It’s simply a practical point that have been implemented in order to motivate people to bring more people to study the courses offered at Desteni – completely normal capitalistic behavior.
“According to several reviews from past members I’ve read/heard about, none of the senior managers even know what the “Equal Money System” is and the phrase “Pyramid Scheme” will immediately get you banned from the organization”
This is misinformation as it’s completely false and doesn’t have any bearing at all.
Firstly – there are no “senior mangers” at Desteni – those that participate are all equal in that they participate by their own free will – and they do so voluntarily – though you will earn respect in the organization as you’re seen to place much time and effort into walking the message that the group presents – yet this will not make you more special, and it will not give you more access into the “secrets” of Desteni – simply because there are no such secrets.
The Equal Money System is shared on the Equal Money website – and everything that is written about the system there is what is the system currently looks like – thus everyone have access to see, understand, and research the Equal Money System for themselves – it’s nothing hidden at all.
“I just read on their materials and official site, aliens are indeed part of this system, and supposedly one of humanity’s greatest secrets. I stand corrected: this system is crazier than Scientology.”
Aliens are not apart of the Equal Money System – and it’s not a part of the practical message of Desteni – which is very simple – it’s to give as you’d like to receive.
Aliens have on the other hand been interviewed through the inter-dimensional portal – and they have given their perspective on the state of humanity – and also shared themselves. This I know is hard for many to understand and comprehend – thus – I will state the following: it’s not necessary to believe in the portal in order to apply the tools of Desteni.
What is important in Desteni is the message that is shared – and this is a highly practical and measurable message – that have effects which you can see in the behavior of the being that decides to walk and live the message – thus – this is what is important; whether Aliens share this message, or some other type of manifestation – it doesn’t really matter – because in the end it all comes down to self-respect and creating self to stand as a individual of integrity in this world.
So – as you can see – there is MUCH misinformation – many misunderstandings – and lot’s of assumptions as to what Desteni is – and what the Equal Money System is – my suggestion is as such that anyone interested, or curious about what we do and represent – commit themselves to do a thorough investigation of the point and most importantly – keep an open mind because the message of Desteni is hard to understand and it will challenge you on many different levels – because a message like this haven’t ever been shared in this way before.
Lastly – Desteni is not a scam – and we are not dangerous – and we are not evil – we are simply human beings sharing a message that have actually been on this earth for several thousands of years already – the message was first shared by Jesus when he said do unto another as you’d like to be done unto you – and this is what we’re all about – really simple!